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David Soares's avatar

Now we know why “Ukraine” is so gosh-darned important to the EU. If the Île de France is about to morph into enjoying the growing season of northern Québec they’re going to need a bit more farmland. Soon it seems.

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Remarkable synthesis of the AMOC tipping point dynamics. Your analogy to death as a framing device for climate collapse strikes precisely at the psychological barrier most people face when confronting systemic breakdown. Rahmstorf's timeframe of 2035-2050 for passing the irreversible threshold aligns with recent modeling, though what stands out is the silent nature of these transition points. We won't necesarily see a dramatic event marking the moment when thermohaline circulation becomes destabilized beyond recovery. The gradual slowing has been documented at roughly 15% since the mid-twentieth century, but the nonlinear dynamics mean the shift from weakening to complete shutdown could accelarate rapidly once critical freshwater dilution thresholds are crossed. Your point about model conservatism deserves more emphasis becuase virtually every major prediction from the past two decades has underestimated the speed of change, from arctic ice loss to permafrost thaw rates. The real question becomes whether northern European infrastructure and agriculture can adapt to a 10-15 degree Celsius winter cooling over just a few decades once the AMOC collapses.

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