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Well done, fully agree. Trump is anything but dovish; still, people remember his 2016 campaign in which one of his more against-the-grain positions was that we don't need these forever wars, we don't need a big problem with Russia. And post-election analysis showed that, statistically, one of the strongest predictors of Trump victory in a given county was the (proportionate) casualty toll in that county from Iraq and Afghanistan. So Harris had better watch it; people still feel that way.

Also, you quote the estimable Ryan Grim as imagining no reason for Harris to continue supporting the genocide and blocking Palestinian-American voices at the convention except only a political calculus about gaining more votes in (for example) Pennsylvania than they'll lose in Michigan. Maybe Ryan is too much a gentleman to mention the very real possibility for such an ironclad, immoral, politically self-damaging stance: that Harris' arms are being twisted, along with everyone else's, by some combination of money and blackmail. Remember for whom Epstein worked.

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> Remember for whom Epstein worked.

I'd love to have time to dig into those charges, but I don't. Is there an easy goto place that details this?

Thomas

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I haven't researched it well enough to determine the go-to, but at first glance Dylan Howard seems to be as close as any: https://7news.com.au/the-morning-show/jeffrey-epstein-was-a-mossad-spy-says-investigative-journalist-dylan-howard-c-595812

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Regret you use Sports terminology. But that's just me. Am tired of shouting DJs, shouting Sports reporters/readers, and now Shouting youtube/videos, etc. (Except Walz).

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Count mine as an undecided vote that if cast, will go for Trump.

Under the Harris-Biden censorship regime I now have to do most of my work offline. When online any attempt to retrieve gmail or go to twitter results in symptomsd triggering a kernel panic that can and has locked my computer up for hours on end (unless I give up and then it's OK after 5-10 minutes but either way the moment I try to get mail or see tweets the system tries to lock itself down again).

You can't google meaningful information about symptomsd (all very old). You can't google information on keeping legacy operating systems functioning on today's internet (the flashier the site, the worse my experience with it).

This isn't Silicon Valley's doing: this is our govt using all the tools at its disposal to silence its critics. And they just won. Tired to death of FIGHTING to post tweets/RTs. Why bother when I almost never see 20 views for anything I write?

I'm done with this shit. Which was their plan all along. The online Left is under constant digital assault and the news media is willfully blind to it.

Because they shut us up, they think they are winning. And when they lose, they are the worst losers imaginable.

Donald freaking Trump is 100x preferable to Kamala Harris. Harris is fascism inc., Trump is just a greedy narcissist.

I'd rather not vote for Trump, but twice every day the Democrats are telling me they'll shoot my dog if I don't vote for Harris. Luckily, I don't have a dog.

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> I'd rather not vote for Trump, but twice every day the Democrats are telling me they'll shoot my dog if I don't vote for Harris. Luckily, I don't have a dog.

That's really clever line, Mark.

Thomas

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Just riffing off an old NatLampCo cover.

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Should this be Ms. Harris's election to contest? She has never won a single delegate while campaigning in contested primaries. She ducked out of the 2020 primaries before California had the chance to humiliate her.

But this is a minor gripe and moot as she is the nominee. The real gripe is her full throat support for genocide, her enthusiastic support for a lethal war machine, her disavowal of Medicare for All and lastly, the complicit approval of censorship of contrary views to the Duopoly's policies and assault on the Right to Assembly for the redress of grievances. Oh, how can I forget the careless and shocking support for unabated infection by ignoring the ongoing COVID pandemic?

My moral compass cannot allow a vote for a killer.

Since my state has precluded non-killers on the ballot line, my vote for President will not tally this election.

Let's face facts. The Western World's political class is composed of shameless charlatans posing as politicians unworried about their abysmal lack of statesmanship. Of course starting off a nuclear exchange might mitigate a warming planet. That's climate policy a bunker inhabiting Harris supporting billionaire can believe in!

In closing, yes, the article's thesis is correct. It is Harris's election to lose. But this is an election we in the U.S. have already lost.

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Yes, so what does anyone propose to do about it?

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Of course, Harris is all in for genocide and war.

Her cult will make excuses.

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Nope. She completely lost any chance of my even considering her when she talked about making the US the “most lethal” fighting force. She is just another face on the same policies that have brought death and destruction to the world and to ever declining living standards to American citizens. I don’t care what face you put on those policies, it’s the policies themselves that I do not support. Further, having a bunch of multi millionaires up there pretending they understand what it is to live in the current United States is ridiculous for want of a better word.

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In other words, Kamala is undefined and people can project what they want onto her. It's up to reporters and the debate to add specificity. Right now, if you care about avoiding nucleur war (Israel, ukraine, china) she appears to be a continuation of Biden and thus no better than Trump, and maybe more risk on Ukraine than Trump. She needs to be more than "I'm not Trump".

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If "I'm not Trump" gets her over the line, then that is what she will do.

It worked for Obama.

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I will roll my eyes and vote for Harris for two reasons only: she MAY allow the recent antitrust action to continue and she MAY be better for the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program, which is of deep personal significance to me. She is Generic Third Way Democrat Type B as far as I can tell, but if she does those two things she will have met the extremely low bar I have set for her.

If she fucks those things up I won't vote for her again, and I won't care how much anyone cries that it's "the most important election of our lifetimes," either.

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However you rationalize voting for genocide.

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No one who wins this election is going to do jack shit for the Palestinians.

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However you rationalize your participation.

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I'm not rationalizing anything. I like your contributions over on FdB's substack (when I hate myself enough to read the comments), but this moralizing is a bit absurd. Whether I do or don't vote for Harris or Trump or no one will have zero effect on the plight of Gazans. It *may*, however, have an effect on me, so I will participate, but in a real, actually-existing world sense nothing either of us does or doesn't do will affect the outcome for Palestinians at all. Not voting isn't a principled moral stance (but in almost all cases neither is voting). By not voting, you will accomplish just as much to stop what's happening as I will by voting: nothing. People like you will say I'm giving my imprimatur to genocide by voting for Harris, but the simple fact is that no one cares what we think about Gaza; it doesn't matter at all. There is absolutely no difference in the real world on this subject between voting and not voting.

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Sure sounds like a rationalization from here.

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You know you haven't actually walked away from Omelas, right? You still live there! I just don't kid myself that by refusing to vote for mayor I'm Doing Good, although the child remains tormented regardless. Unless you're not American? But if so it's quite easy to morally grandstand when you don't actually have any say in the matter.

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