Re CIA infiltration of journalism, it's worth noting that the 1947 National Security Act which created the CIA composed it of not just the deactivated remnants of the wartime OSS, but also those of the Office of War Information, i.e. the propaganda organ. So the CIA had propaganda in its DNA from the start. Doesn't seem to comport with the CIA's stated rationale of providing the President with impartial syntheses of intelligence.
You don't have to turn over rocks to find CIA in the media. Ben Bradlee was overtly ex-CIA; so was William F. Buckley. And Carl Bernstein was inspired to research and write his 1977 exposé on CIA use and infiltration of the media (https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977) on the heels of his intensive multi-year collaboration with Bob Woodward.
Wrong questions, and really? You are invoking Snowden?
Look, Snowden is a traitor AND he lives and works in Russia and helps Putin. You CANNOT trust anything he says, especially with his republican bullshit about how we are being spied on. He was a Booz Allen employee and he couldn't be trusted to his job, or honor his clearance.
I am pretty certain he was paid by republicans for his little stunt AND he isn't a leader in the security space. He is an asshole that tried a get rich quick scheme and if I ever get the chance, I will put his ass in the morgue for his criminal behavior.
The question is: WHY DO REPUBLICANS USE THE CIA TO FURTHER THEIR OWN AGENDA?
You explain that and you have the full picture. Kennedy was assassinated because he wanted to get rid of the CIA. Especially after Iran in 1958 and the GOP and CIA killed him for it. Why? BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TRUST A REPUBLICAN FOR ANYTHING.
Their historical performance after Eisenhower is one of obstruction, theft, and removing rights from Americans to enrich themselves. This isn't difficult.
We need the CIA, and we need RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP. You only get that with Democrats. You can COUNT ON that from Democrats. You cannot say that about republicans.
You really need to stop trying to make both sides bad, and frankly this information is EASY to find.
The inhabitants of the U.S.A. have to be targets of CIA disinformation. When the toll of our wretched foreign policy comes due, the blame needs to be directed at anybody but the state apparatus responsible.
We are now subject to the whims of "rules based order" that were formerly only exported. The propaganda employed for those policies are now for domestic consumption.
Thomas, don't get in any small planes! In fact, stick to Airbus.
By the by, this vid above (in first hour) former Chief of Staff for Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson says that many of the domestic operations we might imagine are CIA are actually (since 70s) carried out by a “politically operationalized” National Security Council within the Executive branch, and that foreign ops use foreign intel agencies for dirty work.
Good reminder (for me) how things have evolved since Church Committee, whose 50-year anniversary is coming up in 2025. It’s been that long since we’ve had any real oversight.
Re CIA infiltration of journalism, it's worth noting that the 1947 National Security Act which created the CIA composed it of not just the deactivated remnants of the wartime OSS, but also those of the Office of War Information, i.e. the propaganda organ. So the CIA had propaganda in its DNA from the start. Doesn't seem to comport with the CIA's stated rationale of providing the President with impartial syntheses of intelligence.
You don't have to turn over rocks to find CIA in the media. Ben Bradlee was overtly ex-CIA; so was William F. Buckley. And Carl Bernstein was inspired to research and write his 1977 exposé on CIA use and infiltration of the media (https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977) on the heels of his intensive multi-year collaboration with Bob Woodward.
Wrong questions, and really? You are invoking Snowden?
Look, Snowden is a traitor AND he lives and works in Russia and helps Putin. You CANNOT trust anything he says, especially with his republican bullshit about how we are being spied on. He was a Booz Allen employee and he couldn't be trusted to his job, or honor his clearance.
I am pretty certain he was paid by republicans for his little stunt AND he isn't a leader in the security space. He is an asshole that tried a get rich quick scheme and if I ever get the chance, I will put his ass in the morgue for his criminal behavior.
The question is: WHY DO REPUBLICANS USE THE CIA TO FURTHER THEIR OWN AGENDA?
You explain that and you have the full picture. Kennedy was assassinated because he wanted to get rid of the CIA. Especially after Iran in 1958 and the GOP and CIA killed him for it. Why? BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TRUST A REPUBLICAN FOR ANYTHING.
Their historical performance after Eisenhower is one of obstruction, theft, and removing rights from Americans to enrich themselves. This isn't difficult.
We need the CIA, and we need RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP. You only get that with Democrats. You can COUNT ON that from Democrats. You cannot say that about republicans.
You really need to stop trying to make both sides bad, and frankly this information is EASY to find.
It's past time you started understanding.
@Cory
"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
"Responsible leadership". Riiiiiiiight.
If no quality platitudes help you deal, then more power to you.
COPE.
No posts. No notes. No likes. One stack followed. Might want to flesh out this persona.
Cory,
This ban is for a day. Please clean up the abuse. Thanks.
Thomas
I do not suffer from Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Embolism, why do you keep bringing this up?
The inhabitants of the U.S.A. have to be targets of CIA disinformation. When the toll of our wretched foreign policy comes due, the blame needs to be directed at anybody but the state apparatus responsible.
We are now subject to the whims of "rules based order" that were formerly only exported. The propaganda employed for those policies are now for domestic consumption.
Thomas, don't get in any small planes! In fact, stick to Airbus.
Looking forward to this.
https://youtu.be/_68EeAp3vYU?si=Tv_qOp77idfGZGx1
By the by, this vid above (in first hour) former Chief of Staff for Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson says that many of the domestic operations we might imagine are CIA are actually (since 70s) carried out by a “politically operationalized” National Security Council within the Executive branch, and that foreign ops use foreign intel agencies for dirty work.
Good reminder (for me) how things have evolved since Church Committee, whose 50-year anniversary is coming up in 2025. It’s been that long since we’ve had any real oversight.
Chilling: https://youtu.be/VA4e0NqyYMw?si=sRzp8q-9TK4U5WVG