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Burnt Eliot's avatar

One difficulty with the constitution today is that organized crime has thwarted it by swamping the three branches with imposters.

So, is it change the constitution to meet the needs of RICO, or is it to eliminate RICO and restore the constitution?

WOW! Tough decision, I suppose, depending how tied you are to which alternative!

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Mark Oglesby's avatar

When you (Thomas) state in your piece "But in Roosevelt’s case, the “strongman” favored of the people, and the FDR Constitution dethroned the rich and greatly empowered the rest..." sorry to say, you're dead WRONG! FDR (for all the good he did and I'm not contesting this nor his many programs to rebuild the nation by putting people back to work) in a fundamental sense was working at maintaining the power of the wealth class, the status quo wherein the private banks maintained their control of the monetary resources of the nation: FDR put The New Deal on the Country Credit Card whereas the money was owed to the private banks.

THEREFORE:

I maintain that FDR saved the nation, or more precise, the wealth class while staying within the system of finance which has evolved into the neo-liberalism we're facing today. Thomas, I was raised by New Deal Democrats, children of the Great Depression, JFK supporters in hyper-conservative Orange County, CA. I'm on social security (70 and going strong), a New Deal benefit to be certain but it doesn't undue the mistakes of FDR and how he financial recovery to the nation.

ONE OTHER THING:

The possibility of an actual revolution could have happened, should have happened, BUT FDR stopped it in its tracks: TOO BAD! A new Constitution would have been written and our history quite different to say the least. A true movement by We The People could have changed not just US history but world history. The American Dreamer, Henery Wallace would have been one of the leaders and quite possibly, there never would have been a COLD WAR with the Soviet Union and the constant threat of Nuclear Holocaust might not be a daily constant in our lives! Who knows?

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Scott C. Dunn's avatar

This makes me want to move to China so that I can watch from afar.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Start liking it. To be fair, it's a series of tit-for-tat moves, much like those that characterized the end of the Roman Republic.

Or, to give but one example, am I the only cat who remembers when the spooks were using the russiagate conspiracy theory to overturn election results that they did not like?

Anyway, the change in some form is inevitable. When entrenched interests (on both sides) make reform impossible, the only thing left to do is fight.

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the suck of sorrow's avatar

In my young adult years, conservatives cursed radicals like me who generated the movement to remove Richard M Nixon from power. History has born out that actually I and my cohorts were the conservatives in advocating for legislative and judicial checks on the executive branch. Those radicals that jeered me in my youth would warmly embrace their current reincarnated form -- the radicals that rule us now.

These radicals now are a danger to everything dear. It is up to conservatives like me to repel their efforts to destroy fairness for *all*.

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Thomas Neuburger's avatar

Cleverly said. And true.

I suspect for most (at least, modern) conservatives, principles be damned, they're just on a "say anything that works" quest for power. I mean that literally.

Thomas

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John Kirsch's avatar

Or you could date the assault on the Constitution to the Civil War, when Lincoln expanded the power of the federal government.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

Dude, the Constitution was written by WEALTHY, WHITE, GENOCIDAL, ENSLAVERS🤦‍♀️ It was written for them not us.

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John Kirsch's avatar

Dude, spare me the attitude.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

No🤣 You should already be aware of this reality. You can't fight for a better reality for all life on Earth until you can acknowledge that the US shouldn't exist.

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