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Some progress, but still a long way towards recognizing epic fails, Mr. Neuberger.

I wrote in your previous election thread that Harris was failing in all of the above categories plus some: Black men, Hispanics, working class, union, Catholics, etc etc.

I wrote also that Harris' appeal and lack of messaging was so bad that the 18-24, the Hispanic women, the college educated women, etc etc would simply not turn out.

I wrote that Trump was likely to win the popular vote (check), that Trump would win at least 300 electoral votes (check), that Trump was most likely win 312 electoral votes (check check), that Trump would sweep the Sun Belt swing states (check), and that one candidate would win all 3 Rust Belt swing states (check) and that it was likely to be Trump given all of the above (check).

None of this was accomplished reading chicken entrails - it was obvious from the polling data.

Let's also delve into the epic fails from the "left leaning" polls: Marist, Ipsos, Morning Consult, Forbes/HarrisX - every single one of them had final polls showing Harris +2 or more - meaning they were outside their own professed margin of error.

As for Bernie - whatever. The dude sold out and I DGAF what he says. That the Democrat power structure DGAF what he says should surprise no one given that he's already rolled over for said power structure not once, but continuously since his 2016 beginning.

To me - this validation for the notion that Bernie was never more than a "Price is Right" game theorist - whatever the Democrat party does, he will simply proclaim a little to the left because he has no actual principles he would fight for.

Lastly, there is no mention of the 50% fall in mail-in ballots across the country.

While I was of the opinion that 2020 was stolen legally via bureaucratic nonsense typical of the professional/managerial/bureaucract class, I am now much more heavily in the "fraud" camp. While some states changed back mail-in ballot access, many did not - primarily the True Blue states.

Yet the falloff is the same there as elsewhere...worse if anything. So unless literally half the country moved in the last 4 years into another state, something else is going on or has stopped going on.

And that something is very possibly mass ballot harvesting. Going through apartment complexes full of young people who don't vote, taking their ballots, fraudulently completing them and sending them in.

This graph from ZeroHedge says it all: https://www.moonofalabama.org/19i/wokedems2.jpg

I should note further that this anomalously high turnout of low propensity Democrat voters in 2020 was not across the board. It was curiously precinct limited - as in precincts with the same lean and in the same state would have radically different turnout. I was waiting for this election to see if the same anomalous turnout would be a trend or not, but it is now clearly a one-off - which is why my "fraud" lean is much more pronounced.

Fraud has to be proven - but now any investigation can focus on these anomalous precincts and ballots/demographics and have a real chance of finding out once and for all, either way.

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Brook Hines's avatar

i’ve been thinking lately that it’s weird how the only ppl i see taking about being ‘centrist’ or ‘moderate’ are Trump voters. aughties-style centrism discourse (critiquing Ds) has disappeared. Dems call themselves “The Left” (which, they’re not). Repubs call Dems “far left” which is just lunacy.

regardless of my discomfort with nomenclature, there is a real kernel here: “left” refers to what some call “woke” politics (ID pol). a potential problem with those exit polls identifying The Economy as a vote driver, is 1) we don’t know what other options respondents were given, and 2) it’s simply not possible to separate “woke” from The Economy b/c “woke” is the bait-and-switch tactic intended to fool the rubes so they shut-up about money issues that would inconvenience the Donor Class.

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